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A day after my initial gagging reflex when hearing the âlie detectorâ segment for the first time, I’m still feeling uneasy.  It remains, by far, the most disturbing thing I have ever heard on radio. One question I canât get out my head: how did this mess get to air in the first place?
Kyle and Jackie-Oâs âlie-detectorâ segment on 2Day-FM ended in disaster on Wednesday morning, with a reluctant 14-year-old girlâs rape revelation. A mother wanted to put her daughter through the test to find out about her experiences with sex and drugs. Allegedly, her daughter had snuck out of the house after going to bed one night and was later escorted home by police, and she had admitted to having smoked marijuana.
When the rape story finally came out, it turned out the mother had actually known about the assault for “a couple of months”. But, she had apparently failed to mention this to the showâs producers before going on air. Mum Michelle also admitted, that in the two years since the rape, her daughter Rachel had received no form of professional counselling. The harrowing minute-and-a-half that followed was a frightening display of poor parenting and even worse broadcasting standards.
Both the showâs hosts and 2Day FM General Manager Jenny Parkes all deny any knowledge of the rape prior to the live-to-air broadcast. Parkes issued a general statement about the incident that said: âAll due care and consideration was given to the family and clearly we didnât know anything about the incident.â The team also assured the national media that the girl is now receiving attention from police and the Department of Community Services.
In defence of the hosts and the showâs producers, even the most affectionate Kyle and Jackie-O haters must give them the benefit of the doubt in regards to not knowing about the rape before the segment went live. The spotlight should rather be on the routines and procedures for getting people on the show â and how they’re being treated while they are on it. It is hard to escape the sense of harassment here. When the presenters introduce the 14-year-old girl strapped to the lie detector, her first words were: âIâm scared.â
Before introducing the girl, Jackie-O replayed parts of the introduction. The part ends with Jackie-O asking mother Michelle whether she thought her daughter, Rachel, was still a virgin. Mum replies: âI think she might have had sex before.â
Following this statement, a giggling Jackie-O, tells the audience: âWe have her hooked up to the lie detector test. Sheâs not happy. [giggles] ⌠I just saw her listening to that replay.â Kyle then turns to Rachel asking her how she feels. Her emotional state is confirmed by Charles the lie detector operator, before Kyle addresses the audience: âShe is scared, everyone, yeah.â
When mum then goes on to ask her daughter if she has ever had sex, her daughter responds: âIâve already told you the story about this … and donât look at me and smile because itâs not funny.â She pauses and continues: âOh, OK ⌠I got raped when I was 12 years old.â
In a letter to The Punch, Kyle Sandilands later wrote: âWe have had the lie detector thing on regularly for about six years. Itâs a semi-regular segment on the show. We check with the mother before hand (sic), and go through the questions they want asked.â
This âprocedureâ probably covers the show legally. After all, it was the mother who submitted her daughter to the test. But despite not mentioning the girl had been raped upon joining the show, the mother had said she was concerned about her daughterâs experiences with sex and drugs. It must have been obvious to the show what sort of questions her daughter would have to answer.
Regardless of a motherâs consent, is it OK to put 14-year-old girls in a situation where they have to tell all about their sexual experiences on live radio? Regardless of whether or not rape is in question?
Would such segment be OK if a girl only admitted to giving a 13-year-old ex-boyfriend an “innocent” handjob â and she had only done it once? Would it really make a difference in terms of content policy and code of practice?
How much did the girl know about what she was in for before she went live across Australia?
Where do we draw the line between public and private? And, between entertainment and socio-pornography involving under-aged kids?
It will be an interesting aftermath, no doubt. And, with reference to all questions stated above, it will also be interesting to see whether the Prime Minister will care to make a statement about the incident, considering his interest in Bill Hensonâs art last year.
I digress.
In the end, it is not a question about form. It is a question about content.
And, perhaps also a question of why the showâs producer allowed the segment to keep running for a total of 90 seconds after the unfortunate 14-year-old told the nation she was raped two years ago.
Steinar Ellingsen tutors in several media and journalism subjects at La Trobe University, and is writing a Masters thesis exploring alternative communities in regional Australia. Click here to check out the blog of his project.
Update: Sunday, 2 August, 8:30 pm – The Kyle and Jackie O show has been suspended indefinitely. For more, see this ABC news report.
upstart has made an editorial decision not to link to the audio segment discussed in this article.
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4 Comments
Great article. This show was live and therefore had no delay, do you think the ACMA will consider putting a mandatory delay onto live broadcasts? They did so to live breaking news and sporting events in the states (janet jackson nipplegate). Also good point on whether Rudd will make a comment considering Henson’s art!
This is a excellently constructed article. I thank you. Unfortunately, the last ‘note’ has been undermined, as far as I’m concerned. “upstart has made an editorial decision not to link to the audio segment discussed in this article.” Yes, very aloof and proper.
Bit of a shame that my class was subjected to the audio in my first year media lecture this morning (MST1AAC) and then urged to read this piece on upstart. The link has been made for you, I’m afraid.
Thanks anyway. I support the editorial decision. (And may I add – I really enjoyed the lecture.)
Kyle Sandilands has gone too far! The whole concept of the program was wrong. Also, even if they were planning on hooking a 14 year old to a lie detector, they should not have asked her sexual questions. What disturbed mind would want to hear about the sexual encounters of an underage kid anyway?
The mother is also to blame. Take your daughter to school instead of a radio program hosted by a disgusting man.
The suspension is over. Kyle and Jackie O are back on air, amid much controversy. Mercifully, a seven second time delay has been introduced to prevent such incidents in the future. Kyle was also sacked from his American Idol gig.
The shock jocks have been punished, whether it’s enough or not is yet to be seen.
What I would like to know is what has been done about the mother who conciously subjected her daughter to “socio-pornography” and public ridicule? The same mother who knew about her daughter’s rape, yet did not seek councelling for her. The same mother who proceeded with questioning her daughter, strapped to a lie detector, even though she was scared. That’s not normal. I think this mother needs counseling.